>> there is and part of it is because there is a bias toward the obama/biden ticket. part of it is because i think everybody knows joe biden. is he a good guy. let me be very clear. i like joe biden. is he a good, decent man. i think people sort of say you know what? that's just joe. you have got to love the guy for being candid and honest. i will tell you what i do love, joe leads with his heart. i give him credit for that. it's kind of refreshing in politics who see somebody who has a heart. he speaks it. you may not agree with what he said. have you got to at least accept the fact that here is a guy who truly does, i think, connect to people. i give him that. >> he is learnly going to make the vice presidential debate upcoming. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> who isn't. >> he is goings to make it interesting. will he seem folksy as he can, joe biden and will that make paul ryan seem stiffer. >> the big challenge for paul ryan is to be able to connect with voters emotionally in the same way joe biden has a capacity to do. for all the talk about biden's gaffes and h